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  [Nov 29] Gymnastics fans comments over stupid Belgian/SID article

I think it's too early to jump to conclusions.
Isn't it interesting, if the quotation is true, that Belu and Bitang would jump to such as "One day we'll hear our girls had group sex". Where does that come from!? With so much drama surrounding Romanian gymnastics one would expect a little bit more patience.


Ponor has never said that she was planning to pose nude. What is the matter with everyone? Khorkina has posed nude and the Germans didn't write an article about how sad that was. And they are ones to talk about programs falling apart.
The Romanian program survived a revolution and the defection of all but their FX coach (Belu) and went on to dominate the international scene for 15 years. East Germany joins back up with West Germany and their woman's program ceases to be competitive within months. And at any rate, Milo did what she did because she was getting paid zilch by RGF for coaching.
No one but B & B got paid a living wage. It has been extremely hard for former gymnasts to work as coaches in Romania which is one of the reasons so many moved away and coach in the US, France and Canada.
And frankly, the tone of the article didn't sound all that sympathetic to me, more like "ha ha, you should have left the dictators in place" instead of "isn't it sad that this storied program with this long history of success is having so much trouble right now."

...and in any event the Romanians are pretty good at getting their gymnasts into and through college. Amanar, Gogean, Milo, Olaru all went to college and all have worked actively within the sport since their retirement as coaches, judges etc. None of the gymnasts referred to in the article have made a career out of nude modeling - any of those who have posed for nude shots seem to have done it only once and for the money before moving on with the rest of their lives. doubledouble

                                  THE COMMENT OF THE WEEK

The Romanian for the last 2 quads have done poorly individually for the last to worlds and overall are very practical!!! The majority of the team does the minimum to get by with decent score, which is why they lost in Atlanta, which they performed the same as they always did, just the US and Russia had a better day of hitting all the big skills.

Look, 1997: Team gold, but can any of you name all six members in 10 seconds...NO. Why, because the whole team doesn't stand out. AA- no medal; Vault, gold and bronze, BUT the Phelps is worth $H1T!!! and they were over scored, so I question that. Beam, don't get me started. Kui, KHorkina, and Ludivine Furnon (spelling). Ludivine was underscored, as was Kui (big time). So maybe a bronze for Gogean. As for floor, Fair. BUT WERE THERE ANY NEW FACES THAT WON AN INDIVIDUAL!

Same for 2001, team gold, But had Raducan retired, no individual medals.

Now in 2005, they get one individual medal, but had Daniela Sofronie stayed... medal in the AA, and Floor. If there was a team competition, I believe they would be top 3. Again, if you disagree, name all the team members from 2001 in 9 seconds... YOU CAN'T!!!.
So a bunch of unknowns would have earned another team medal. Everyone believes Belu was the best, I think he was another Archiave (spelling) of Russia, who (if you have IG mag) would see how he killed off other coaches so he could have all the glory, common Archeiave, you can't be that good of a coach, besides none of your personal gymasts were the back bone a the team.

So with Belu gone, I think Romanian will produce more artistic gymnasts. Remember Alexandra Marinescu? She had big skills, but since she was from the Bucharest Team, Belu took her out of the AA a few times and put her on the back burner, I am sure there are other gymnast out there who come from Alexandra gym, but have been ignored because of Belu.

Romania's priority is winning gold a big competitions, that's why they skipped the 2002 Euro team comp. They have done this before. Imagine if they try real hard, you think in 2008 everyone will be like "Romania is good, after all they are the 2005 team champs" ...NO. No one cares who won worlds the year after the Olympics, It's mainly scavengers, which is how khorkina picked up to AA titles (except 2003, the best).
I am not degrading Khorkina or the Romanians, I am just explaining their tactics. So, everyone get off your high pony, Romanian cannot be judged by this one competition.
I am not saying that they will be the 2008 Olympic Champs, but they are not doomed because of Belu. Don't forget, programs peak at different times (EXCEPT FOR CHINA, they will never peak, or hit when it counts.

P.S. Whoever thought china would be awesome at this worlds cuz of the Asian Games is as $tupid as the people who base their World/Olympic predictions on the American Cup. Both competitions are fixed!!!!! Nuff Sed!!!! JUDGING 101

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